- Hello and welcome.

And we hope you enjoyed this sneak peek of "On the Road with Chatham Rabbits," an original production of PBS North Carolina.

I'm Heather Burgiss, director of original productions, and also executive producer on this show.

We hope you've enjoyed this really wonderful look at Chatham Rabbits, Austin and Sarah McCombie, as navigate their lives as musicians, singer-songwriters, and farm folks.

[chuckles] [Sarah and Austin chuckle] So we hope you've had a great time.

Here I am with Chatham Rabbits, Sarah and Austin McCombie.

Thank you guys so much.

- You're so welcome.

- Thanks for having us.

- This is so fun to be here with all our friends online, and now we're here.

- It is.

It's surreal, because we were just here.

- Right.

- Well, you know, it seems like it's been years, and at the same time, it just happened four years ago.

- Right, four years ago, "My Home, NC" featured you as you quit your day jobs and went off to be musicians.

And now here you are, and we're doing a deeper dive with "On the Road."

What has that experience been like for you?

- Phew, we've aged a lot in four years.

[Sarah and Heather laugh] - We've aged a lot in four years.

We've learned a lot.

But it's been really, really amazing to work with PBS NC on the deeper dive on a little bit of definitely a more multifaceted view and, like, grittier view of what we do.

You know, I keep sayin' and reminding folks, what we do stage accounts for such a small percentage of all the other things that we have to juggle as Chatham Rabbits.

And so "On the Road" did such an excellent job of capturing all of that.

- And we saw that in the pilot.

We saw the songwriting, the farm life, and the concerts, going to Bynum, going to Sanford.

And so we'd love to hear the music.

And so I don't want to take that away from anybody.

And a little bit later, we're gonna be doing Q&A with you as well as talking about the show.

But I don't wanna take the music away.

So without further ado, Chatham Rabbits.

- All right.

All right, y'all, we thought we would kick it off by sharing the song that is in the teaser for this episode, for the pilot episode of "On the Road with Chatham Rabbits."

And it's a song that kinda weaves its way through the first episode that you just watched.

And it's really, really neat that we were able to use this song, because it is called "This Year."

And this year, making this show with PBS NC has changed our life in numerous ways.

And so this song seemed really fitting to share with y'all.

Here we go.

[light bluegrass music] ♪ ♪ See a car in East Virginia ♪ ♪ I wanna know who's behind the wheel ♪ ♪ When I pass a cemetery ♪ ♪ I'm wanna know who's laying in the field ♪ ♪ When I meet you after the show ♪ ♪ There is so much that I wanna know ♪ ♪ Has your garden been good this year ♪ ♪ Does the Word of God bring you clear ♪ ♪ Oh, I have changed so much this year ♪ ♪ Yeah, I have changed so much this year ♪ ♪ Well, I wanna read your scrapbook ♪ ♪ And you can show me all the ones you took ♪ ♪ Well, I wanna learn your family's names ♪ ♪ See your friends through your college days ♪ ♪ And I spend time with you ♪ ♪ When I say what I mean, it's true ♪ ♪ I let time slip away ♪ ♪ Without with comin' up for air in days ♪ ♪ But I have changed so much this year ♪ ♪ Yeah, I have changed so much this year ♪ ♪ Well, I stopped to pull a turtle ♪ ♪ Out the middle of the road ♪ ♪ And I'm holding up someone ♪ ♪ From where they oughta go ♪ ♪ I know my progress ain't always clear ♪ ♪ I have changed so much this year ♪ ♪ Yeah, I have changed so much this year ♪ ♪ When I see a car in East Virginia ♪ ♪ I wanna know who's behind the wheel ♪ Thanks for listening and watching, everyone.

It's so awesome that so many of our current fans and especially our patrons, our family and friends are out there watching.

And we hope that there's gonna be some new folks out there in the virtual world that will get to catch some of this as well.

Austin and I, in addition to the show "On the Road with Chatham Rabbits," we have some other big news coming up in June.

- Yeah, we're releasing our third full-length record.

And since we're premiering the episode, we thought we'd go ahead and premiere one of the songs from the new record too.

Yeah.

We're are releasing the show at the Haw River Ballroom in Saxapahaw on June 3rd.

So we'd love to see you in person at that show.

And this tune, it also made its way into the pilot episode, and it's one of our favorites from the new album.

And, you know, as you guys got a sneak peek in our lives, you can see it's not always sunshine and daisies.

People think Sarah and I just sit in these fields of flowers and write songs together.

But you know, sometimes it's really hard.

And this is one of those few songs that we really truly wrote together.

And it just came together in a really magical way.

And it's about relationships and how easy it is to take the other person for granted after while and stop doing the little things that made you fall in love in the first place.

And it's really important to get off your high horse sometimes [Sarah chuckles] and do those things again.

And so that's what this tune's about.

It's called "If You See Me Riding By," which also happens to be the name of the new record.

- That's right.

[gentle bluegrass music] ♪ ♪ If you see me ridin' by ♪ ♪ On a horse 16 hands high ♪ ♪ Take me down, pull me aside ♪ ♪ And tell me to check my pride ♪ ♪ Don't you know that Jesus rode ♪ ♪ On a horse so low he drug his toes ♪ ♪ As long as the Red River flows ♪ ♪ I will tie my house and I'll walk below ♪ ♪ I give you a leg and lift you up ♪ ♪ And find balance in the stirrups ♪ ♪ And I will walk you to the edge of town ♪ ♪ And I will hold the reigns while you dismount ♪ ♪ You can see the riverbed ♪ ♪ It's clear but know what lies ahead ♪ ♪ A trip this way will fix the hurt ♪ ♪ Instead of cover it up with the dirt ♪ ♪ Well, I came aboard to help you row ♪ ♪ The two of us on this boat ♪ ♪ You asked for time just to float ♪ ♪ So I will tip the stern and let you go ♪ ♪ Don't you know that Jesus rode ♪ ♪ On a horse so low he drug his toes ♪ ♪ As long as the Red River flows ♪ ♪ I will tie my horse and I'll walk below ♪ ♪ Yes, I will tie my horse and I'll walk below ♪ - All right, everybody.

Thanks for listening.

Thanks for tuning in.

We are gonna shift gears for just a second and do some Q&A.

[acoustic guitar strums] - [Crew Member] Okay.

- All right.

- All right.

- [Sarah] Let's put these.

- [Person] No, I don't.

- You wanna grab some of that?

- All right.

- [Heather] Good job.

- [Sarah] Thank you.

All right.

Thanks, Dan.

- Absolutely.

- [Heather] All right.

We have some questions.

- All right.

- All right.

- [Heather] It's gonna be fun.

- [Sarah] We have some questions, this is exciting.

- Thank you all for the questions.

I'm always excited to get viewer questions.

- Yeah, I'm so curious as to- - It's like fan-mail, but in a different way.

- What they're gonna be.

[Austin chuckles] Man, as soon as we sat down, I just have to say, I feel like we're now, like, sitting on the couch, just chilling and talking now.

- We are.

No, this is the chill time.

- Ah, this is the chill time, you guys.

- And you all sounded beautiful.

- Thank you.

- I love both of the songs so much.

- Thank you.

- And they're featured in the series.

So if you didn't hear those tonight, they will be in future episodes.

So stay tuned Thursday nights at 8:00 p.m. - That's right.

- Can you believe there's a show about your lives?

- I cannot.

- No.

Absolutely not.

[laughs] - I am so excited about it.

When this all started, you know, conversations were being had about, "Is this a possibility?"

And I was like, "Austin, we have to do this."

Like, I will literally do anything to do a TV show with PBS.

And Austin was- - I was like, basically we got to the "American Idol" audition, but I was like, "It's like winning 'American Idol' "that that would actually happen."

- He's like, "You'd be lucky just to make it to Hollywood."

And I was like, "No, like, we have to do this."

- The golden ticket is yours.

- The golden ticket.

- Our golden ticket's here.

- I can't believe almost a year later, here we are, and we have a miniseries.

Like, it's amazing.

- It's great.

And I hope everyone enjoyed the pilot, because we do get to see, as I called you, farm folk.

- Yeah.

- They are farm folk.

You know, we get to see all the fun animals.

We get to see the songwriting, which to me, is really personal and special.

And I wanted to talk, in one of the things, you say, "We would like to play in all 100 counties."

One of our viewer questions is, how are you doing so far on that?

- That's a great question.

- What number are we?

- We are at- - We're over halfway.

- Yeah, we're at 54 counties.

We really need to hit a bunch of counties in Northeastern North Carolina.

So Bertie County, I'm lookin' at you.

- [Heather] C'mon, Bertie County.

- Like we need, is it Greene County?

We have not played in Greene County.

So anybody up in the Elizabeth City area, holler at your girl.

We need we need to play those counties.

[chuckles] - Those are good counties too.

That would be fun.

Here's a question from a viewer.

What family members inspired you the most?

And this could be, like, your children.

- This could be scary, because some of our family's watching.

- I know.

I don't wanna say the wrong family member.

- How 'bout we start by saying all of them?

- All of them.

- [Heather] All of them have inspired you.

That's a good answer.

[laughs] I like that answer.

- All of them inspire us.

I think our family members inspire us for different reasons.

Some have crazy, kooky stories.

Some have sentimental, kind of heartbreaking stories.

And also, I think various members from both our families have creativity or specifically work ethics that we really admire.

- And some things have been inspired by loss of family.

Like Sarah said, I think the range is wide, and we're giving the very politically correct answer here.

[Sarah laughs] But everybody in our family is important.

- I'm wondering if one of your family members posed this question.

- Yeah.

- I bet it was.

- I was wondering about that.

- Is McCombie or Osborne the last name?

- If the last name is Osborne, I know who it was.

- But I thought that was a good answer.

It was really good.

- There we go.

- So have you performed in other countries?

Do you know if you have fans from other countries?

That's a good question.

- Wow.

- I love that.

- We've performed in Canada.

- Okay.

- Toronto!

[laughs] - Yeah, that's about the extent.

- That's the farthest, like, you know, our most international concert.

- Well, we'd love to go overseas.

That would be awesome.

- Yeah.

We have quite a few fans specifically in the U.K., and we've had a lot of interest to play in the U.K. And a lot of people don't know this, but actually Japan has a really, really strong bluegrass culture, because bluegrass really started around the time of World War II.

And while there were U.S. soldiers in Japan, they brought bluegrass music with them.

And so there's still a of trickle-down effect of that music over there.

So we've had a lot of interest in Japan.

- That is so cool.

- I hope we get to go.

- Let's go.

- That would be fun.

- I'm ready.

- I'm going with you.

- Okay, sounds good.

- I love this, because we do see the farm life, and people love the animals.

And I love the animals when I get to come to the farm and see them.

And this is a great question about songwriting and animals combined.

What lessons from raising horses and farming have you applied to your songwriting, if any, or vice versa?

- Good question.

- Man, well, I mean, the title of our next record is "If You See Me Riding By."

So I think there is something in that metaphor for that tune that we got to play tonight, which is a great segue.

The horses have this spiritual connectiveness to humans.

It's something that's hard to explain unless you experience it.

Sarah always grew up with horses, but I didn't.

So I never experienced that till we had them.

And I think our animals definitely inspire our songwriting.

- Yeah, I would say to that, specifically in regards to the horses and riding, for me, when I'm riding, you have to be so aware of your surroundings and the animal.

Like, you have to be very safe, and you can't be focused on other things.

And so it's the one place.

Like, maybe some people get there by knitting or yoga or swimming or whatever.

It's the one place where I can go and zone out.

Because otherwise my brain is, like, "Zing, zing."

Like, I run on 100 all the time, and it's the only time, [Sarah and Austin laugh] it is the only time that I can chill out and just be like, "Okay, we're here."

And I think that helps in my songwriting a lot.

- Songwriting's all about having mental space to be creative.

And yeah, for you, being around the horse allows your brain to just, like, open up.

- Yeah.

- That's really cool.

- Well, I love that you guys say that, because I think what I've noticed with producing this show is that you each have your own special ways that you kind of relax, and you have separate activities that really kind of feed you.

- Yeah.

- Talk about that a little bit.

And we're gonna see some of this in subsequent episodes.

But I really think it's cool how you guys give each other space to do that.

- The thing is, so most of our couple friends have a problem in their marriage where they don't get to spend enough time together, right?

'Cause they're working nine-to-fives.

Our problem is the opposite.

We spend so much time together that thank goodness we like doing things extracurricular, outside of music, that are different.

But yeah, we really try and give each other space to separate when we're home.

And we do write music a lot separately.

And we kind of come back together with ideas and finalize those.

So yeah, for me, you'll see, I don't wanna give it away, [Sarah laughs] but you'll see my favorite hobby in the next episode, I believe.

- It's pickleball, everyone.

- Yeah.

[laughs] - It's pickleball.

- Ballroom dancing.

Austin is just, wow, the foxtrot.

Woo!

- I am light on my feet.

- We will say that Austin's activity is really gorgeous visually.

So we'll give a hint.

So that's coming up.

- I'm a great painter.

- You're a great painter.

That's right.

[Sarah and Austin laugh] So this is really fun.

Someone loved your love story, and they wanna know about how that chance meeting at Cat's Cradle happened.

But you guys didn't actually meet at Cat's Cradle.

- Yeah, that's a really good distinction.

We did not meet.

I actually- - I first saw her there.

- With a different boyfriend at the time.

- Really?

This is news to me.

- No, it's not.

- [Heather] Wow, I have never heard that.

- Yes, it is.

I didn't know.

- You heard it here first, folks.

- Yeah, you heard it hear first.

- Great.

[Heather laughs] - No, we did not actually meet that night.

Tell them what actually happened.

- Yeah.

It was a last-minute decision to go to the, at the time, Mandolin Orange, now Watchhouse show at Cat's Cradle for their album release.

And I had no idea who Sarah's band was.

And I had tickets to go, but I just could not find.

None of my friends really listened to folk music, and none of them wanted to go.

And I was like, "Oh, I'm a cool college kid.

"I can't go alone, so I just won't go."

You know?

[Sarah chuckles] And my best friend and roommate, Harrison Holt, who might be watching tonight, he called me, like, 15 minutes before the show started.

And he was like, "I'm comin' from Greensboro."

"What are you doing tonight?"

And I was like, "Well, I have two tickets to this show.

"Let's go."

So if it wasn't for that phone call, we probably would not be sitting here today, which is really kind of hard to think about.

- We should all thank Harrison.

- Yeah, thank you, Harrison.

- Thank you, Harrison.

- And he's been with us along the way.

So yeah.

And I saw Sarah 'cause she was opening for Mandolin Orange that night.

And I told Harrison, I was like, "I really want to meet her."

And he was like, "So does everybody else.

"That's not gonna happen."

- But the crazy thing is you did not introduce yourself at the show.

- No, I was way too scared.

My best friend told me I couldn't do it.

- So a year later- - I Facebook messaged her.

- Yeah.

- That's so great.

- And was that guy.

- How uncanny that we're here today.

- I know.

- It is, it's bizarre.

- If you start thinking about it too much, like this or any other interaction, it starts to freak you out.

Because it's like, "Wow, one thing "could have changed the whole plan."

- I think that's great though.

We have some more viewer questions, but now I have to put my screen back up.

"Sarah, what was your inspiration "to play a clawhammer banjo?"

- Oh my gosh.

That's a great question.

The inspiration was that I always loved to sing.

And still, singing is, like, my preferred instrument, or my voice is my preferred instrument.

But I was really into old-time music when I started college.

And I went to my favorite band's concert.

They were called the South Carolina Broadcasters.

And at the time they were looking for a banjo player, and they saw that I was singing the words to their songs and knew every word and everything.

And so they said, "Well, we'd love to audition you, "but you need to learn to play the banjo."

And so that was my inspiration, "I want to be in this band."

- That's great.

- I didn't really have anything to do with the banjo.

It was just like, "I wanna be in a band, so I have to learn."

- I love it.

That's great inspiration.

- Yeah.

And I will say, everybody's like, "Oh, clawhammer is so hard."

It is hard, and I'm not a fancy clawhammer player, but I do think is it is an accessible form of playing.

And if I can learn, like, anybody can.

[chuckling] - Spoken like a true former music teacher.

- There you go.

- That's right.

- That's so good.

Everyone can learn.

- That's right.

- Austin, someone wants to know a little bit about your guitar.

- Oh.

- Oh, my guitar.

Well.

- Do you have a name for your guitar?

- I don't think so.

- Oh, okay.

- No.

- Rusty.

- Rusty.

- Rusty.

[Sarah and Heather laugh] Okay.

There it is.

Rusty.

My guitar was made in Hillsborough, North Carolina by a company called Pre-War Guitars.

And not to be the advertisement for Pre-War, but they're amazing guitars.

And everybody who's anybody in the music world in our genre right now is playing one.

And they design all their guitars to basically look and sound just like old Martins and Gibsons from the '30s, just without the huge price tag that those vintage guitars have.

And you know, since it's a new guitar, I can tour with it, and it gets beat up on the road a lot, and we throw it in the airplane, and it's replaceable.

So they do such a good job.

I mean, everybody love their guitars.

- And yours is specifically what?

- Mine is the model Advanced Jumbo after the Gibson Advanced Jumbo, modeled after 1938.

So yeah.

- Now, I asked you this earlier, and you were so quick to say it.

But who's your favorite animal?

And I thought, and I said, "Oh, they won't have a favorite "'cause they're all like children."

But you immediately said.

- Wayland, my horse.

- Wayland the horse.

Okay.

- Yeah.

I love Waylon too, but I would have to say Biscuit, simply because- - And who's Biscuit?

- Our cat.

[Sarah chuckles] - Well, they know.

They saw.

- Oh yeah, that's right.

Duh.

[Heather laughs] - Our cat, for the main reason that he's the only animal that loves me more than Sarah.

- He always chooses Austin.

- So he chooses me, even if I don't wanna be chosen.

He comes to me, and we have this kind of unspoken, like, "That's my dude right there."

- And Biscuit is a star.

I mean, Biscuit knows when the camera are rolling.

- He's majestic.

- He is.

- That's so fun.

Well, Sarah, it seems like you really enjoy teaching.

Do you miss it?

- I really miss teaching a lot.

I was actually- - She's still teaching.

I'm just her only student now.

- Austin's my only student.

[Heather laughs] I was just telling Dan, who's back here rolling the camera.

He has a four-year-old daughter.

I was like, "I just need somebody to babysit and teach."

Like, I miss my students a lot.

And I'm really fortunate, because I still keep in touch with a lot of my students that are now in high school or college even.

But yeah, I really miss it.

And I miss it specifically, the school I was at allowed me to have a lot of freedom with my curriculum.

And like, I taught North Carolina musicians and Delta blues music.

And I got to, like, focus on stuff I was passionate about.

And I had a very positive teaching experience.

And yes, long story short, I miss it a lot.

- Now, what was your most surprising moment during the filming process, where you were like, "Aha"?

- Interesting.

- Mm.

- I think honestly, looking back at the show after it was edited, I think I was just like, "Wow."

Like, we finally, after a little while, we got used to having the crew around.

And so I think it's when you're looking at one person with a relatively small camera, you don't know what they're really capturing.

You're just doing your thing.

And to look back at it and be like, "Wow."

Like, "This moment that passed in an instant "was actually captured so well."

And I just thought, to me, that was the most surprising thing.

I knew that this team was so capable, but just to see what was captured was really special.

- I would agree with that.

There were moments captured that I had no idea anyone was there filming.

And we were just really fortunate with Miriam and Dan, Will and Mike, like, capturing, and Trey was there.

So, I mean, we had just a team that was incredible at sneaking in there and getting these really sweet moments.

I think that was amazing.

And I also learned how it was possible to be even more exhausted after shows.

And it's like, oh, not only do we perform on the stage, but then we have a camera in the car with us.

You know, just all the things.

- You never got to be off at that time.

- Right.

- Right.

- And you did mention Dan, and also director of photography, Miriam McSpadden, who could really kinda get in there with you guys.

You got really comfortable, like she was another band mate almost.

- Yeah.

- Yeah.

- And so she got those sweet shots that you did didn't even know we got.

- Yeah, it was really- - She even stayed in her van beside us in Cracker Barrel one night.

Yeah, I don't wanna give anything away.

- Don't give it away, 'cause it is good.

It is so good.

- It's really good.

- It is really good.

- I would also love to say, when speaking about Miriam, it was really cool for me to get to work with other women on the team.

You as the producer of the show, Miriam as director of photography, and Kelsey was our audio tech for a lot of shows.

And it's very rare, maybe I'll say in the film world, but very rare in the bluegrass world, in music world, to get to work with women in leadership.

And that was very cool for me.

- Sarah's used to sweaty dudes all day.

- I'm used to stinky, sweaty dudes.

[Austin laughs] And I was like, so ready for these ladies.

It was really fun.

- Well, we enjoyed it too.

I think one of the best parts of this storytelling too is how authentic you guys are.

And I said in a graceful way earlier, because you guys really just share your lives so gracefully.

Is that hard sometimes?

[Austin exhales] I mean, I see you- - Authentic and grace, I dunno if that's really- - Yes, it's the same.

It is true.

But I see you, like, on your porch with Butter, no, Cornbread.

I wanna call him Butterball.

- Butterball.

- Butterball.

But Cornbread, the turkey, and you have your glass of wine, and it looks so natural.

You know, that's authentic to who you guys are.

- It is.

- That's because you don't see the next moment when the glass of wine gets spilled- - The only thing is you don't see the huge turkey poop on the back of my pants 'cause I sat at it, you know?

But that is really our life.

And I was just telling someone else earlier today, like, I think what I admire most in musicians and people that I love and follow is authenticity and honesty and transparency.

And I hope that people feel like that we emulate that, because I just know how much it's meant to me for me to see, I always use Brandi Carlile as an example as my favorite artist.

But she is just so real, and I've always loved that.

And I hope that we bring that to the table.

- That's great.

'Cause that goes into our next viewer question.

What other musicians inspire you?

So Brandi Carlile.

- Brandi Carlile for me is- - Yeah, Brandi Carlile.

- Up top.

- Yeah.

Man, the list is really long.

But I mean, I think we have such a rich music scene in the Triangle.

I mean, we're inspired by a lot of our peers, which is like, that's a really cool thing to be able to say.

Like, we have sort of a pocket here, almost like Nashville does, with Watchhouse, with Mipso, with gosh, man, the list is long.

- Sylvan Esso, you know.

We have so many bands here that are just killin' it.

Like, just doing so well.

And we really look up to a lot of our peers.

There's a label that our friends started called Sleepy Cat Records, and it's a community of grassroots musicians.

And everybody on that team we really look up to.

Our friend Alex with Bedtown Studios.

But as far as- - Chris Frisina.

- Chris Frisina.

Yeah, all these bands.

- Yeah, there's some amazing musicians here.

- We also really look up to Gillian Welch and Dave Rawlings.

We love that they sing into two SM57 microphones and they've played the same instruments for 30 years.

And you know what you're gonna see when you go to their shows, and it is very comforting.

- Yeah.

- That is who inspires.

- Yeah.

- And one of the things.

I won't give anything away.

[Sarah chuckles] But one of the scenes in a future episode kind of has you guys really connecting with fans.

And what is it like for you to be out there seeing your fans?

I mean, I know that's so, you write songs about it, you know, "See you after the show."

To me, there's such a genuine connection with your Chatham Rabbits fans.

- Yeah, our fan community, that is what differentiates us, I think, from a lot of bands, or a lot of artists.

Just like, our fans are such an important part of the community that we're building.

And I think when we were filming this and I saw the episode for the first time, the thing that I got the most excited about was thinking about our fans that have been with us from the beginning when we did the first "My Home, NC" piece, seeing this and being like, "Oh wow."

Like, I mean, I was a financial guy.

So part of me is like, "They made a good investment in us," you know?

[Sarah laughs] Which is not a good way to look at it.

But I'm like- - The returns are huge, everyone.

- Yeah, here we are with our TV show.

But I just think it would be really nostalgic for me as someone who loves music to follow a grassroots, really small band and then follow them, and then see them, you know, on TV with a show.

And I just think that would be incredible.

- It's really cool.

We feel so incredibly thankful for our fans.

And Austin and I were just talking about the other day.

Like, our life has changed so much in four years, but our friend group has just expanded.

And now we have these like little pockets of friends and, like, tour parents all over the country.

And I think it's interesting and really special that we really do take our fans up on, like, staying at their houses and, you know, sending their kid a video for their birthday and stuff.

Like, we just know that we're nothing without our fans.

And so we've got- - Yeah, they're our employers.

- Yes.

- Yeah.

- Well, we are so excited to have you here.

- Thank you.

- We are live in the studio, and it feels so good.

And we are excited for everyone to see the show on Thursday nights at 8:00 p.m. And you are the first to hear it, there's a bonus concert, June 30th from Cat's Cradle.

It's the fifth episode.

Thank you guys so much.

- You're so welcome.

We're so grateful to be here.

And we'd love to invite everybody to see us in person on our album release shows.

June 3rd, Saxapahaw, June 5th in Wilmington, and June 10th in Charlotte.

And then watch the fifth episode- - That's right.

- June 30th.

- [Heather] Goodnight, everyone.

- Bye, everyone.

- Bye.